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Government Insider Says Bush Authorized 911 Attacks
Comment by Larry Ross, September 21, 2004
Nothing I can remember on Bush and Iraq in
our website, would rule out Stanley Hilton's revolutionary theory and revelations. They are mind-boggling and a
real shocker - like one of the worst scenarios, which I suspected
about 9/11, but could not prove to be true. However the lawyer, Stanley
Hilton, seems solid and well-connected with a good reputation and a long
legal history. I don't think he's gone off his nut. If this worst
scenario is indeed true, I think humanity is in for much worse than
we've seen so far. We are looking at completely unprincipled and desperate
men, willing to gamble with the future of the world for very
high stakes. This includes hanging on to power at any cost. It shows a
willingness to invent, under Bush's new nuclear doctrines, any phoney
justification to use nuclear weapons to achieve their goals.
I think they would take the risk of setting off a global-destroying
nuclear war, rather than be exposed, shamed and prosecuted. Hitler
and other tyrants, have expressed the wish to take others with them
if they fall, often blaming failure on those they have abused. If
anyone has additional factual information, please email it to: nuclearfreenz@lynx.co.nz
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Government Insider Says Bush Authorized
911 Attacks
From Thomas Buyea, September 17, 2004
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Keep in mind when
reading this, that the man being interviewed is no two-bit internet
conspiracy buff.
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Stanley Hilton was
a senior advisor to Sen Bob Dole (R) and has personally known
Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz for decades. This courageous man has
risked his professional reputation, and possibly his life, to
get this information out to people.
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The following is
from his latest visit to Alex Jones' radio show.
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Forwarded with Compliments
of Free Voice of America (FVOA): Accurate News and Interesting
Commentary for Amerika's Huddled Masses Yearning to Breathe
Free.
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Note: All honor
to Stanley Hilton for risking his life so that we may know the
truth of 9/11.
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The Bush
Junta Unmasked
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"This (9/11) was
all planned. This was a government-ordered operation. Bush personally
signed the order. He personally authorized the attacks. He is
guilty of treason and mass murder." --Stanley Hilton
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Alex Jones interview
of Stanley Hilton, attorney for 911 taxpayers' lawsuit
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Alex Jones Radio
Show September 10, 2004 Transcription by 'RatCat'
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AJ: He is back with
us. He is former Bob Dole's chief of staff, very successful
counselor, lawyer. He represents hundreds of the victims families
of 9/11. He is suing Bush for involvement in 9/11. Now a major
Zogby poll out - half of New Yorkers think the government was
involved in 9/11. And joining us for the next 35 minutes, into
the next hour, is Stanley Hilton. Stanley, it's great to have
you on with us.
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SH: Glad to be on.
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AJ: We'll have to
recap this when we start the next hour, but just in a nutshell,
you have a lawsuit going, you've deposed a lot of military officers.
You know the truth of 9/11. Just in a nutshell, what is your
case alleging?
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SH: Our case is
alleging that Bush and his puppets Rice and Cheney and Mueller
and Rumsfeld and so forth, Tenet, were all involved not only
in aiding and abetting and allowing 9/11 to happen but in actually
ordering it to happen. Bush personally ordered it to happen.
We have some very incriminating documents as well as eye-witnesses,
that Bush personally ordered this event to happen in order to
gain political advantage, to pursue a bogus political agenda
on behalf of the neocons and their deluded thinking in the Middle
East. I also wanted to point out that, just quickly, I went
to school with some of these neocons. At the University of Chicago,
in the late 60s with Wolfowitz and Feith and several of the
others and so I know these people personally. And we used to
talk about this stuff all of the time. And I did my senior thesis
on this very subject - how to turn the U.S. into a presidential
dictatorship by manufacturing a bogus Pearl Harbor event. So,
technically this has been in the planning at least 35 years.
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AJ: That's right.
They were all Straussian followers of a Nazi-like professor.
And now they are setting it up here in America. Stanley, I know
you deposed a lot of people and you've got your $7 million dollar
lawsuit with hundreds of the victim's families involved.
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SH: 7 billion, 7
billion
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AJ: Yeah, 7 billion.
Can you go over some of the new and incriminating evidence you've
got of them ordering the attack?
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SH: Yes, let me
just say that this is a taxpayers' class action lawsuit as well
as a suit on behalf of the families and the basic three arguments
are they violated the Constitution by ordering this event. And
secondly that they [garbled] fraudulent Federal Claims Act,
Title 31 of the U.S. Code in which Bush presented false and
fraudulent evidence to Congress to get the Iraq war authorization.
And, of course, he related it to 9/11 and claimed that Saddam
was involved with that, and all these lies.
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AJ: Tell you what,
stay there. Stanley, we've got to break. Let's come back and
get into the evidence. BREAK
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AJ: All right my
friends, second hour, September 10th, 2004, the anniversary
of the globalist attack coming up tomorrow. It's an amazing
individual we have on the line. Bob Dole's former chief of staff,
political scientist, a lawyer, he went to school with Rumsfeld
and others, he wrote his thesis about how to turn America into
a dictatorship using a fake Pearl Harbor attack. He's suing
the U.S. government for carrying out 9/11. He has hundreds of
the victims' families signing onto it - it's a $7 billion lawsuit.
And he is Stanley Hilton. I know that a lot of stations just
joined us in Los Angeles and Rhode Island and Missouri and Florida
and all over. Please sir, recap what you were just stating and
then let's get into the new evidence. And then we'll get into
why you are being harassed by the FBI, as other FBI people are
being harassed who have been blowing the whistle on this. So,
this is really getting serious. Stanley, tell us all about it.
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SH: Yeah, we are
suing Bush, Condoleezza Rice, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Mueller, etc.
for complicity in personally not only allowing 9/11 to happen
but in ordering it. The hijackers we retained and we had a witness
who is married to one of them. The hijackers were U.S. undercover
agents. They were double agents, paid by the FBI and the CIA
to spy on Arab groups in this country. They were controlled.
Their landlord was an FBI informant in San Diego and other places.
And this was a direct, covert operation ordered, personally
ordered by George W. Bush. Personally ordered. We have incriminating
evidence, documents as well as witnesses, to this effect. It's
not just incompetence - in spite of the fact that he is incompetent.
The fact is he personally ordered this, knew about it. He, at
one point, there were rehearsals of this. The reason why he
appeared to be uninterested and nonchalant on September 11th
- when those videos showed that Andrew Card whispered in his
ear the [garbled] words about this he listened to kids reading
the pet goat story, is that he thought this was another rehearsal.
These people had dress-rehearsed this many times. He had seen
simulated videos of this. In fact, he even made a Freudian slip
a few months later at a California press conference when he
said he had, quote, "seen on television the first plane attack
the first tower." And that could not be possible because there
was no video. What it was was the simulated video that he had
gone over. So this was a personally government-ordered thing.
We are suing them under the Constitution for violating Americans'
rights, as well as under the federal Fraudulent Claims Act,
for presenting a fraudulent claim to Congress to justify the
bogus Iraq boondoggle war, for political gains. And also, under
the RICO statute, under the Racketeering Corrupt Organization
Act, for being a corrupt entity. And I've been harassed personally
by the chief judge of the federal court who is instructing me
personally to drop this suit, threatened to kick me off the
court, after 30 years on the court. I've been harassed by the
FBI. My staff has been harassed and threatened. My office has
been broken into and this is the kind of government we are dealing
with.
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AJ: Absolutely and
now it has come out - five separate drills of flying hijacked
jets into buildings that morning - which you told us about before
it even broke in the Associated Press. They were trying to get
out ahead of you. You talked about how you interviewed military
people who were told it was a drill that morning. Then to get
out ahead of that, the news finally reported on it. Now, we've
learned that all these operations - I want to get into that,
I want to talk about the new incriminating evidence of ordering
it and how they had drilled on this, how Cheney was in the bunker
controlling this. That has even come out in the mainstream news
but they won't release the details of that, Stanley. But what
type of FBI harassment are you going through?
SH: First of all, my office was burglarized in San Francisco
several months ago. Files were gone through and some files were
seized - particularly the ones dealing with the lady that was
married to one of the hijackers. Fortunately, I had spare copies
in a hidden place so nothing disappeared permanently. But more
significantly, FBI agents have been harassing one of my staff
members and threatening them with vague but frightening threats
of indicting them. And it's just total harassment. They have
planted a spy, an undercover agent, in my organization, as we
just recently discovered. In other words, these are Nazi Germany
tactics. This is the kind of government you have in this country.
This is what Bush is all about.
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AJ: Stay there,
Stanley, Bob Dole's former chief of staff. We'll come back after
this quick break. Please stay with us. BREAK
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AJ: All right, eight
minutes, 25 seconds into the second hour. Stanley Hilton, political
scientist, lawyer, Bob Dole's former chief of staff, is suing
the government for 7 billion dollars for carrying out 9/11 and
for racketeering. And he joins us now. During the break, I first
really did the big interview with Stanley Hilton after I saw
him attacked on Fox News. And that interview got massive attention.
And then he kind of went underground for a while because a judge,
we're going to talk about that, ordered him to not do any more
interviews. And now he's back doing interviews. He's had his
office broken into, FBI threats and harassment. Bottom line,
he has deposed military individuals, wives of hijackers, you
name it, it was a government operation. It has even come out
in mainstream news, a piece here, a piece there. They had drills
on 9/11, that's why NORAD stood down. Cheney was in control
of the whole thing. Stanley Hilton has now gotten documents
about how Bush ordered the whole operation. And I'll tell you
right now, his life is in danger, folks. And he's got so much
courage. He went to school with these neocons at the University
of Chicago. He wrote his thesis on how the government could
use terrorist attacks to set up martial law. He is the man for
the time and folks wondered why he disappeared for a while and
just did his lawsuit and wasn't doing interviews, it was because
he was ordered to. Stanley, can you get into that for us?
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SH: I did an interview
with you, Alex, back in March of 2003, about a year and a half
ago, and literally two weeks after that, I was contacted by
the emissary of the chief judge of the federal court where I
have the lawsuit. And I was warned not to publicize it but to
keep it quiet and threatened with discipline. And it remained
quiet until a couple of months ago and then I got on the air
on some programs and some publicity and July 1st, I was threatened
directly by the chief judge here, threatened with court discipline.
This particular judge has been circulating communiqués to the
other federal judges seeking anything negative she can get against
me to try and discipline me after I've been on the court here
for 30 years with no disciplinary problems at all. This is suddenly
happening. And her assistants who are on the committee of the
court met with me on July 1st in Palo Alto, California, and
threatened me directly. They handed me a copy of the lawsuit
and said that the judge wants me to dismiss this. What's this?
She doesn't like the content of it. This is politically incorrect.
This is outside the norm. I said I represented more than 400
plaintiffs, how am I going to dismiss this case? And they threatened
me directly and they said, "the next time you'll be disciplined."
And also they've threatened me not to go public, etc. And this
is just outrageous.
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AJ: It's all color
of law. No direct orders, just all in your face.
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SH: They sent a
letter out, and of course they deny it's because of the political
content of the suit but they told me directly on the phone that
it is because of this suit and this judge is very, very angry,
apparently has been in contact with Ashcroft's Justice Department.
I got a call from Ashcroft's Justice Department a few months
ago about this, demanding that I drop the suit, threatening
sanctions and all kinds of things. I refused to drop it.
AJ: Now let's go back over, you had them break into your office,
harassment. Let's go over that in detail.
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SH: My office was
broken into about 6 months ago. The file cabinets - it was obvious
they had been rifled through. Files were stolen. Files dealing
with this particular case and particularly with the documents
I had regarding the fact that the - some of these hijackers,
at least some of them were on the payroll of the U.S. government
as undercover FBI, CIA, double agents. They are spying on Arab
groups in the U.S. And, in effect, all this led up to the effect
that al Qaeda is a creation of the George Bush administration,
basically. That the entity that he called al Qaeda is directly
linked to George Bush. And all this stuff was stolen. Fortunately,
I had copies. But this was just part of the harassment. The
FBI has also been harassing some of my assistants and has planted
a spy in our midst. And it is just outrageous that these Nazi
tactics are being used - and the obstruction of justice, these
people are criminals. And that's what's happening under the
tremendous pressure here to just drop it. Or to shut up now
and just go away.
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AJ: Now, let's talk
about what they want you to drop. Let's talk about, without
giving names, the people you deposed, what really happened,
the picture you've got. You said earlier that Bush ordered this,
they were simulating this which they now admit there were simulations
on that morning. Let's go over what they don't want you to talk
about, Stanley.
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SH: We have evidence
both documentary as well as witness sworn statements from undercover
former FBI agents, FBI informants, etc., that other officials
in the Pentagon and the military and the Air Force that deal
with the fact that there were many drills, many rehearsals for
9/11 before it happened. Bush had seen this simulated on TV
many times. He blurted this out at a press conference in California
a few months after 9/11 where he said he had, quote, seen the
first plane hit the first building on the video. And that's
not possible because there was no official video of that. There
was one of the second plane not the first one. He had seen the
first one. We do have some incriminating documents that Bush
personally ordered 9/11 events. It was well planned. A FEMA
official has admitted on tape that he was there the night before
- September 10th, that is
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AJ: And now Mayor
Giuliani, a few months ago in the 911 Commission, admitted that
- Tripod II. They had their whole command post already moved
out of Building 7. Now, this is very, very important. This is
a key area of this whole event. You said months before it came
out on the CIA's own website and the Associated Press, you said
I deposed people. They said there were drills that morning and
exactly what happened, happening - that was the smoke-screen
for the stand-down. And then to get out ahead of it, the CIA
comes out and said yeah we were running a drill that morning.
Now, we've learned that five, possibly six, were confirmed.
Five of these - one drill with the exact same thing happening
that actually happened, at the exact same time in the morning.
That's why NORAD stood down with 24 different blips on the screen.
You've said this. You brought this up first. Now, I know you
can't get too much into detail but can you tell us how you learned
of this?
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SH: I have interviewed
individuals in NORAD and the Air Force. I personally toured
NORAD many years ago around the time that I worked for Dole.
I'm very familiar with the operations at Cheyenne Mountain at
Colorado Springs, where NORAD is. Individuals that work in NORAD
as well as the Air Force have stated this, off the record, but
the point is, yes, this was not just five drills but at least
35 drills over at least two months before September 11th. Everything
was planned, the exact location
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AJ: But five drills
that day.
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SH: That day, that
day, and Bush thought it was a drill. That's the only explanation
for why he appeared nonchalant
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AJ: We also had
NORAD officers and civilian air traffic controllers going, "Is
this part of the exercise? Is this a drill?"
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SH: Yes.
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AJ: On the tapes
and in TV interviews, they thought it was, quote, a drill.
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SH: That's right.
That's exactly what I said long before it became public. I've
known about this since earlier in March of '03, as I stated
before. This was all planned. This was a government-ordered
operation. Bush personally signed the order. He personally authorized
the attacks. He is guilty of treason and mass murder. And now,
obstruction of justice by attempting to use a federal judge
and FBI agents to inhibit a legitimate civil lawsuit in this
country, in federal court. Even a chief judge in this court
tried to harass and threaten me personally for representing
legitimate plaintiffs. And they got Clinton for allegedly lying
under oath about Paula Jones and now - look what's happening
now. And Ken Starr used to be across from me in Duke Law School
in the early `70s and it´s interesting that he got away with
trying to get Clinton impeached, so we have a far worse criminal
sitting in the oval office today - somebody guilty of mass murder
as well as obstruction of justice.
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AJ: Well, I mean
look, they say they never heard of a plan to fly planes into
buildings - said it all over television - Rice, Bush, Cheney,
Rumsfeld, Ashcroft. And then we find out they were running all
these drills that morning. Even if they weren't involved, that
proves they were liars about ever hearing of such a plan.
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SH: Well, I'm trying
to take their depositions - I've been trying to take their depositions
for months. They've been trying to object to it. They will have
to admit they were either lying then or now. It's clearly perjury
either way. They are liars and perjurers; that's what they are.
These are the people that we have running this government and,
of course, they knew about it. How are they going to claim now
that they didn't know about these drills? Their idea is that
nobody knew anything. It's the old know-nothing mentality. And
how anybody considers this believable is beyond me.
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AJ: All right, now
people ask how could a huge organization, how could the AWACs,
how could the military let this happen; whereas before, if your
Cessna got off course for five minutes, they would launch F-16s
on you. It's real simple. It's what Stanley Hilton said here
a year and a half ago. It's what came out in the news after
that. The military, good people, were told this was all a drill.
And it was not a drill. And ABC News admits that Cheney was
in control of [?] out of the White House [?] and that he ordered
the military to quote "do something." Our inside sources from
Hilton and others say it was a stand down and they admit they
will not release that under national security. Stanley?
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SH: Well they are
going to admit it, they're going to release it in the court
case because if you demand it under subpoena powers and they
must release it. And part of our lawsuit is brought in the name
of the U.S. because under the federal fraudulent [Claims Act],
we accuse the Bush Administration of presenting a fraudulent
claim to Congress. And under the statutes of Title 31 of the
U.S. code, they must release this information. That's why they
are trying to threaten me, harass me, invade my office, steal
my files, commit blatant obstruction of justice and other crimes
to try and prevent a legitimate civil suit from exposing these
criminals and their acts of treason and mass murder.
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AJ: I think you
need to publicly tell folks that you are not planning suicide.
Would you like to tell folks that?
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SH: (laughs) I'm
not planning suicide. I've got family and I'm not planning that
but I don't like the threats I'm under - but I can tell you
this, it's taking a toll emotionally on me and my staff. And
particularly, when you get a threat from the chief judge of
your own court.
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AJ: Why have you
decided to go public again after a year of being under the radar?
SH: Because the more and more evidence that I've been adducing
over a year and a half has made it so obvious to me that this
was now without any doubt a government operation and that it
amounts to the biggest act of treason and mass murder in American
history. I mean George Bush makes Benedict Arnold look like
a patriot. He makes Benedict Arnold look like George Washington.
I mean that's what we have - a criminal and a traitor sitting
in the White House pretending he's a patriot, wrapping himself
in the flag. And it's pretty disgusting because the other side
of the so-called opposition, the Kerry camp is just saying nothing
because they're afraid to speak.
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AJ: Stay right there.
We'll be right back.
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AJ: Stanley Hilton
will be with us for another 15 or 16 minutes. Then he's got
to go into court. Bob Dole's former chief of staff, political
scientist, lawyer, represents 400 plus plaintiffs - most of
them victims of 9/11. When I was in New York last week, everybody
I was talking to, I mean 90 plus percent of them at ground zero
- "I had family, I worked in the buildings, my son's a Navy
Seal - he called the night before and said don't go to work."
You know, all of this, and then now they never had any idea
- and it turns out they had all these drills - and one drill
of hijacked jets flying into the World Trade Center and Pentagon
at 8:30 in the morning. That morning - come on people! And Stanley
Hilton brought all this out on this show before it was in the
mainstream news. And I was talking to him during the break.
I mean, the harassment, the moles, the threatening of his staff,
the judge threatening him. Stanley, let's get specifically into
the documents that you have now got that they have now been
robbing you for, that you luckily, thank God had copies. Specifically,
Bush ordering this. Can you get into that for us - ordering
9/11?
SH: National Security Council classified documents which [garbled]
and it's was part of a series of documents that were involved
with the drill documents. This was all planned - they had it
on videotape. These planes were controlled by remote control,
as I stated previously a year and a half ago, there's a system
called Cyclops. There is a computer chip in the nose of the
plane and it enables the ground control, the military ground
control, to disable the pilot's control of the plane and to
control it and to fly it directly into those towers. That's
what happened. It's also a technology used on what's called
the Global Hawk, which is an aircraft drone - a remote- controlled
aircraft. And they were doing it. We are talking about National
Security Council classified documents that clearly indicated
that [garbled] had a green light to order this to go and this
is no drill. These drills that were running were clearly a dress
rehearsal and this was a government operation. You wonder why
these people are trying to threaten people and trying to intimidate
people who have written this suit, I guess if you murdered 3000
of your own citizens, in conjunction with the corrupt Royal
family of Saudi Arabia as Bush did. And if you then waste billions
more on a worthless garbage war in Iraq, I guess you've got
something to worry about and you want to threaten people to
prevent it from coming out.
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AJ: I mean let's
look at this. Not only are there dress rehearsals, they are
smoke screens so the good military stands down and doesn't know
what's happening. But it's now coming out, even in mainstream
news, that yes these drills were going on. Yes, and some of
these drills, quote, passenger-type jets were under remote control
- this is decades old technology. In 1958, NORAD was [ ] old
jets and using them for target practice. Decades ago they flew
jumbo jets from LA to Sidney Australia. So since that's going
on, everybody knows that. And it's the same MO. Just like the
first World Trade Center [bombing] where they get two retarded
men who followed this blind sheik who had a tiny mosque above
a pizza parlor. And they set them up as the patsies. Then the
FBI cooks the bomb, trains the drivers. This informant goes,
"You're not going to bomb the building? They go "Yeah, we're
letting it go forward." He tapes them to protect themselves.
The two retarded gentlemen, thank God, didn't park it up against
the column, as the FBI instructed them to do, so it didn't bring
down the tower - because you have to be right up against the
column. That doesn't happen. Yet, it's the same thing with 9/11.
You've got these CIA agents, these Arabs, who were trained at
U.S. military bases, Pensacola Naval Air Station - mainstream
media, out creating their legends for this background. They're
on board the aircraft. My military sources say nerve gas kills
everybody on board the plane - nerve gas packets. Then they
fly the planes into buildings. From your inside sources, is
that accurate?
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SH: It's one of
the things that we are looking into - that nerve gas or something
else disabled people. It's possible. I can't say for sure to
be honest with you
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AJ: All you know
is they were government agents and they were on board and the
planes were remote controlled.
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SH: Yeah, it was
basically a smokescreen. I mean, the events of the hijackings,
how someone snuck in those cutters, it was a plant. It was like
a classic decoy. I've got some military background. And it's
called decoy. It's a decoy operation. You make the people focus
on the decoy to avoid looking at the real criminals. So they
are focusing on these so-called nineteen hijackers and saying,
"Oh, it must have been these Arabs. When, in fact, the guilty
person is at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue - sitting in the oval
office. That's the guilty person. That's the one who authorized
it. There is only one man who could have authorized this operation
and that's Bush. And anyone at NORAD will tell you as I have
been told personally at NORAD in the war control room, there
is only one man who has the power to do this kind of thing and
that's Bush. Even though many believe he's a puppet. And I think
in many ways he is. The fact of the matter is where was [ ]
Cheney, Rumsfeld and these other traitors. The fact is Bush
personally ordered and he's guilty and liable and he's going
to be re-elected apparently because the media's asleep and [garbled]
for Bush.
AJ: Well, the media is owned by the same military industrial
complex that carried out the attacks.
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SH: Yeah, the media
is only interested in maintaining the official government fantasy
that this was a little lone Arab. These Arabs couldn't even
steer that plane down a runway.
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AJ: Stay there Stanley,
final segment coming up. BREAK
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AJ: Mr. Hilton,
when you talk to these FBI agents, when you talk to these military
men and women, what's their attitude? They've got to be pretty
freaked out to have the big picture and know what actually happened
on 9/11.
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SH: Yes, you know
it's like clouds just before a thunderstorm in the sense that
they are sort of pregnant with rage. They are just enraged at
the criminal politicians who have perverted and misused the
government to murder its own citizens and pursue these dubious
political ends. And many of them, in increasing numbers, are
willing to talk and will talk under subpoena - but only under
subpoena because the official party line of the government is
shut up and don't talk to the trial lawyer. But more and more,
they are very outraged that part of the government has done
this to its own people, to its own people. I mean you have to
go back to Stalin to see something - not even Hitler did this
to his own people. You have to look at Stalin who murdered the
Kulaks, the Russians for his own dubious gains. Also we've got
- we have a Stalinist mentality in this country. And, if these
people pose as patriots and wrap themselves in the flag, it's
disgusting. I wanted also to point out that the Japanese television
network, Asahi, is going to be airing a special on primetime
tomorrow, on September 11th. They interviewed me for eight hours
a couple of weeks ago. I'll be on that. I wish - of course,
the America media don't care so they are not going to care.
But in Japan, people are very serious in interviewing me and
others. And we have a website now, called deprogram.info, if
more people are interested: www.deprogram.info. But the other
thing, I just wanted to say that if anything happens to me -
and I don't know why - because I'm being threatened here now.
And it seems you can't bring a case in this country anymore
against criminals in power without being threatened. And this
is how they operate. The stakes are pretty high when you've
got a world historical level of treason and fraud by this government
against it's own people. I guess this is what you have to expect.
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AJ: Stanley, the
globalists, the new world order crowd, definitely intend to
carry out more terror attacks. I know they would have carried
out more attacks if we wouldn't have done what we've been up
to, if you wouldn't have been out there boldly speaking out
and many others. And then their electronic Berlin wall has a
bunch of cracks in it now. Thanks to good people like yourself
and many others who are speaking out and telling the truth.
But do you think that they may carry out what they've been hyping
- a suitcase nuke attack, a biological release to try to smokescreen
all of this? I know it's a catch 22, you've got to expose the
murderers. We've got to get the word out on this but some government
people that I've talk to say, "Yeah, but if you do that, they
are going to go even more hard core and must totally try to
take over." But I say regardless, they are already doing that.
So what do you say to that?
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SH: Well, yeah,
I think they have an agenda. They have contingency plans. I
think they are laying low now because there are an increasing
number of people, like myself, who are openly challenging them
and accusing them of criminal conduct. I think they would have
done it again if we had not spoken up. I think they're planning,
what they would like to do is silence any dissenters. That's
why we are trying to get the Patriot Act declared unconstitutional
in this lawsuit also.
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AJ: Let's talk about
polls. In the beginning a patriot is a scarce man, hated and
feared, but in time when his cause succeeds, the timid join
him, because then it costs nothing to be a patriot. You are
one of those guys who hit the barbwire for us, or figuratively
jumped on the hand grenade for America. But when you've got
a Zogby poll, who is highly respected, half of New Yorkers believe
that the government was involved. When you have a Canadian poll,
63% on average believe that the U.S. government was involved.
And some groups, as high as 76% in polls believe the government
was involved. European polls, two- thirds show the same thing.
We have German defense ministers and technology ministers and
another member of their government now, three of them going
public, known conservatives, and progressives. You have an environment
minister, Michael Meacher, saying that if they didn't do it,
they sure as hell knew what was going on. Look, if anybody who
is a thinking person looks at the evidence, their official story
is impossible. Then you investigate and they are involved in
it. Comments to this massive awakening and what's happening.
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SH: Well, I think
that's why they want the Patriot Act to suppress political dissent.
They have to, they're anticipating, they are not dumb individuals.
I know these people personally, Wolfowitz. These are criminal
individuals but they are smart and so they anticipated political
dissent. And that's why, like the Nazis, their forebears, and
their blood brothers, the Nazis and the Stalinists, they're
all for political repression. Every corrupt and criminal government
has done this - they suppress their own people: Nazi Germany,
Communist Russia, Mao Tse-Tung, that's why we have the Patriot
Act. So it's hand in hand. They had it planned to go right up
to September 11th, this was all part of the plan. You have to
do it. It was part of my senior thesis. You must follow through
the terrorists attacks with a political suppression mechanism
in the law. And that's why they want Patriot I and Patriot II
and their plans are to continue launching more terrorist attacks
to justify even more repression. The goal is to make this a
one party dictatorship in this country, to pursue their dubious
ends with their blood brothers like the Saudi Royal family.
And also, historical blood brothers, such as the Nazi Germany
and the Communist Russian. That's the goal
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AJ: You've got to
go in just a minute or two. But I wanted to also tell you about
New York. Sound cannons that are used in Iraq, they're against
us. Men in black ski masks. 41,000 police, accredited media
being arrested randomly. Children being arrested, people in
wheelchairs, 2000 plus people put in a camp with barbwire fences
inside with no bathrooms. You had to have permission to go to
the porta-potties. Police screaming at you. It had nothing to
do with terrorism. They are openly setting the precedent for
martial law.
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SH: Well, that's
right, the word terrorist is now being overly broad and overly
defined [garbled] and also, you know, it's like the word communist
was used for anything during the McCarthy witch hunt. And anybody
can be called a terrorist by Bush's definition. But the irony
is that the number one terrorist in the world is living at the
White House at the oval office today. That's the real irony.
For sheer hypocrisy, I think he deserves the world prize and
ought to be in the Ripley book, Believe It or Not, and the Guinness
book of world records for sheer brazen chicanery and fraud.
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AJ: Let me ask you
a question on this because this is the experience that I had.
Watching television, watching the killers, watching those that
are guilty, stand up there as our saviors is incredibly painful.
It's like watching Ted Bundy being the judge at his own trial.
I mean it is just painful to know who these people are. To see
them putting America in a shredder. Now we are going to have
forced psychological testing of every American, forced drugging,
you know Pan-American unions, I mean it's just all happening,
it's in our face, Stanley.
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SH: Yeah, it's very
disturbing and as one who has studied the theory and concept
of dictatorships, I personally interviewed Albert Speer, who
was Hitler's armaments minister. I interviewed him in 1981 in
Munich. And I've studied the psychology and history of totalitarianism
and there is no question that it's very frightening. And it
has, today, with high technology, albeit for the first time
in history, the chance of having a world empire dominated by
corrupt, technologically oriented government - an elite government.
And they've got now what people like Napoleon and Hitler didn't
have, which is the technological means to dominate not only
their own country but others - the world.
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AJ: The answer is
to expose them as the terrorists, to show how PNAC [Project
for the New American Century] said we need helpful Pearl Harbor
events, to show how Northwoods called for the exact 9/11-style
attacks, to show their own plans. And to force people to face
this horror. What are they going to do in a year or two when
80% of us, not half of us, know the truth?
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SH: Well, that's
why they want repression and, then again, the ancient old diversion,
launch another terrorist attack to get people to pitch it away.
I mean who knows what they'll do next. I mean their capacity
for ingenious creation of these events is sort of unraveled.
I mean there is no limit. My guess is they are going to try
another stunt - maybe a stunt just before the election to justify
getting Bush reelected. Although it seems like he is running
against a straw man or a ghost right now, anyway. But, my guess
is they'll try some other tactic to get people's attention away
from 9/11 if it gets to be too much attention. What you really
want is for the public to just lose interest because the public
- and it's like remember the Alamo, you know, people don't forget
things like that. To me it's like the Alamo, remember 9/11,
that ought to be the slogan for this outrageous act of treason.
That's what it is. It's not
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AJ: We are at a
crossroads, I don't think they anticipated this much resistance,
Stanley.
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SH: Yeah, I hope
they are truly wrong and as incompetent as they are corrupt
and guilty. That means their incompetence is exceeded only by
their corruption and their guilt. And eventually, if enough
people are going to get outraged enough, these people in the
bureaucracy and in the civil service and our military, and eventually
we can get people under subpoena these individuals will be exposed.
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AJ: Stanley, their
whole operation hinges on us being naïve and not recognizing
evil. This is what they got with Hitler and others. People couldn't
recognize evil so they continued to repeat succumbing to it.
We are recognizing it this time. We are putting our lives, our
treasure, our future on the line for freedom because we cannot
let these blood-thirsty control freak terrorists capture us
and use us and turn us into the empire and have a draft and
use us as their slaves to invade the planet. And that's their
PNAC plan. Stanley Hilton, I know you've got to get to court.
God bless you. I want to thank you for being here with us today.
Can we get you back on next week?
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SH: Sure, just give
me a call.
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AJ: God bless you
my friend. Any closing comments?
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SH: My closing comments
would be, I think people ought to just think about the consequence
of having someone like Bush in the White House and the danger
for the future that these sorts of individuals pose. This is
not just a historical event of the past. This is part of the
plan and the camera is still rolling. They have an agenda. These
individuals are extremely dangerous. They are armed and dangerous.
They pose a clear and dangerous threat to every freedom-loving
person not only American but in the whole world.
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AJ: You are absolutely
right Stanley Hilton. They have captured the government. They
have not captured the peoples' minds and they are counting on
us not facing up to it.
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SH: And they are
counting on the repressive Patriot Act and threats and chief
judges and FBI agents threatening people who are exposing them.
That's what they are counting on.
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AJ: But you're not
backing down are you, my friend.
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SH: No, I'm not
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AJ: Well, we all
stand with you, my brother, and God bless you.
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SH: All right. Thank
you.
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